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  1. If this man isn’t taken to task now and formal police complaints are not filed tomorrow it could be an underage girl. Please do understand from so called harmless flirting it doesn’t take too long to move to molesting and eventually rape.

    Ladies get together and report this man to the cops. People from outside the photo community will also stand by you.

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    1. So it’s not about just him! All these ppl who think they are a big shot merely end up doing these things.
      Director of an Elan / Kwan Mr.Anirban Blah asked me to sleep with him to get me work.

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  2. i had a similar encounter with Manik too. he asked me to intern with his magazine which had just recently launched. invited me over to his house to discuss the work. and suddenly i found myself being asked to give him a blow job.
    At that time, I wasn’t sure if he thought he could ask me simply because we had met at an informal setting. I turned him down and quietly resumed speaking about our work. But after that, he started behaving very rudely. Only barked commands, constantly told me that I’m incompetent and let’s just forget about monetary compensation. That never materialized. When I told him I won’t work for him anymore unless he pays me,He said he won’t give me a recommendation. hahaha. Like I wanted one from a pervert. I told him my degree would get me better jobs than his recommendation.
    this was 2012. i remember friends from college who used to post his internship gig on fb. i always told them to stay away from him. I’m so glad that people are finally talking about this!

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  3. I was propositioned by Manik. He sent me inappropriate facebook messages such as:

    “You look so lovely, we need to get you closer.”

    “Why are you so far?”

    “Morning gorgeous / miss”

    “How gorgeous are you now?”

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  4. I was “harassed” by him in a similar fashion, but I did something that did not occur to any of your poor tortured souls. Guess what Facebook has come up with a revolutionary feature where you can block/unfriend a person in your list. I thought it is my duty to tell you poor unfortunate girls because my heart goes out to you.

    In all seriousness, this blog caught my attention but the testimonials reak of contradictory behaviour. One has to be completely ignorant or blind to reality to not see his intentions from the very start of each conversation he initiated. To continue engaging him or being polite to him, will only encourage him to make his vulgar motives more and more clear and disgusting.

    Meeting someone at his house, accepting alcohol while clearly expressing the opposite desire, travelling or setting up meetings with him, laughing off his outright ridiculous advances yet continue to talk to him politely. Here is the best one, He asked me for a blowjob, I turned him down and continued talking about work. Are you serious?

    Understand one thing, I am by no means even remotely defending this deplorable individual, but to act as a victim instead of doing something about it or even ignoring/blocking him does make light of your own cause and gives a bad name to real harassment issues.

    I am absolutely sure that all of you must have blocked many other creeps for saying things much less offensive just because they did not seem like they belonged to the same class of society or did not have any professional benefits. Are you so desperate for work that you will put it before your modesty?

    Stop acting like victims and say a vehement no or block someone if is inappropriate. Not all of you, but some of the people in this blog are attention seekers and hypocrites and it makes me sad that the real issues are being overlooked because of this pretense.

    Someone had to say it. If you don’t agree I won’t be surprised. Get real. This is exactly why people don’t respect your feminist causes.

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    1. Hi Anna, I think most of them at the first, didn’t actually think he was being serious. This phrase, for example: “I’m not going to publish this even if you blow me”, is also a thinly veiled blowjob demand; but most people will ignore that as a joke and move on with their work.
      Also, many of them were under 20 when this happened and were not very well versed with the power politics goes on between a predator and his prey.

      I strongly oppose your choice of words though. No one is “acting as a victim”. While you were happy just by blocking him and saving yourself the trouble doing nothing about other possible future victims, these ladies are coming out and making this blog to spread awareness among others who might fall into his trap again. So they are not acting victims. They are doing something about it which you didn’t.

      Moreover, Anna, people don’t respect feminist causes because 50.2% of the “people” are male and trust me, we are fine about being at the top of the food chain! The other half, i.e. the women have been brainwashed, harwired to accept the patriarchy and thus, they give the biggest piece of pie on the plate of the boy child while they teach the girl child to be modest.

      Lastly about the “getting real” part, Anna, you blocked a creep and closed the chapter. Good for you. They are doing a little extra by making other girls aware. How much more real can they get?

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    2. Yes my point exactly! Ok so this guy is into undisguised sexual advances ON TEXT, and you’re having a meltdown?! Have men never made advances at you before? and sexual thoughts have obviously never crossed your mind! I mean seriously, that fb conversation about the shower is so lame it made me wanna barf. This is not feminism. I’d even go so far as to say that you’ve all been a tease and flirted right back by not taking a real stand (if indeed you were offended). This public slandering on a social forum is wrong and yeah stinks of publicity seeking intentions, least of all violence. I mean its not as though he slipped roofies into your drink or attempted to violate you sexually without your consent. ‘I went along for some time and then later felt dirty?!’ I mean wtf?! What are you, 4? I doubt that he’s any older than you. And this –
      “I was propositioned by Manik. He sent me inappropriate facebook messages such as:
      “You look so lovely, we need to get you closer.”
      “Why are you so far?”
      “Morning gorgeous / miss”
      “How gorgeous are you now?”
      -is anything but lewd. It does sound like he’s into you though – biiiig mistake.
      This whole thing is shamefully callous and childish, and as stated earlier a complete denigration to the real issues that are glaringly pivotal these days. In my opinion this is blatant misuse of social network communities. Personally, if I had the slightest inkling that this is shit I’m not into, I’d run miles in the opposite direction by sheer instinct, or I’d ask him to Fuck off and get on with my life, and by the sound of it he’s been pretty darn explicit, certainly not a beat-around-the-bush kinda guy. And since the general bystander has nothing better to do, always ready to stoke the fire, the slandering gets uglier as the hypnosis grows. This is dangerous territory and I urge you to tread carefully.

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    3. I really don’t think it’s right nor helpful to blame those on the receiving end of sexual harassment for not reacting in the ‘right’ way.

      These situations are complex and when harassment happens there is always a level of self doubt experienced by the victim, with thoughts like “this person is widely respected/powerful so their behaviour can’t be malevolent, I’ll just brush it off and try not to cause a scene.”

      Putting the blame back on victims will only serve to shift the attention away from the perpetrator’s behaviour ; it’s extremely important that when someone finds the courage to come forward with their experience, no matter how small or big you judge it to be, we don’t stray from the topic and instead show support and solidarity.

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      1. If you think I am blaming the victim I am afraid you missed my point. Not that I don’t sympathise with the people involved in such incidents, I just want to draw attention to the fact that often the victim can help the situation.

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    4. Woman, when you are a gullible 21 year old, when you live in a country filled with perverts, and when your new boss makes a pass, you tend to rationalize things by saying that perhaps every woman has to go through with these things in her daily life. So you do nothing. i know and understand my consent literature very well so I definitely don’t need your patronization about how one can block people on Fb. Being coaxed to go to his house was part of his agenda to make sure I am in his lair. I did tell him that I would prefer meeting him in his goddamn office. But he had plans to go to INA in the evening and therefore, would fin it more convenient if i came over there. For an intern, you hasn’t even started working, you don’t have the courage to say on your boss’s face that you are uncomfortable to come to their house.

      Quite honestly, I on’t see any reason why I ought to justify my actions to a stranger who clearly is quite self-righteous to believe that she would hae reacted better. In hindsight, all of us (his victims) are terrified that we let him get away. But I’d prefer if you keep your judgments to yourself.

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    5. Well too bad Anna, what you are doing here is a textbook definition of victim blaming. Yes, ignoring and/or blocking an individual is absolutely possible, but most of the testimonials clearly state that Katyal approached them in a professional capacity – they were either interns or approached as future employees/collaborators. And here the line between a clear fuck off and a polite demurral becomes understandably blurred because of the power equation that is established, enabling someone with more clout (like Katyal) the means to abuse and/or manipulate whoever he’s pursuing. Another testimonial talks about how a rebuttal in her case was rewarded with aggressiveness. I’m wondering if you read them at all.

      Oh, also: “Are you so desperate for work that you will put it before your modesty?” – can we all climb onto our soapboxes now and call Anna out for being a privileged ignoramus please?

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  5. I am not here for a debate, neither am I opposing a point of view. I feel it is my responsibility to draw attention to what can be done in the moment rather than after an incident. One of the reasons men like this get away with such inappropriate behaviour is because it is not put down vehemently and immediately when it happens.

    I feel it is too extreme a viewpoint to assume that I am somehow taking sides with the perpetuator or drawing attention away from the topic when I am merely bringing up another facet of the situation which has not been discussed.

    Men should not be allowed to use civility and the obligation to act in a socially acceptable manner as an excuse to get away with such things. Stand up for yourself. There is nothing wrong with that, if you feel something is not right and upsets your decency, call it out, to hell with everything else. Women are stronger than this.

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  6. Wow, I’m utterly surprised by Anna’s comments. Your solipsism and myopic view of the this issue prevents you from understanding, even remotely, what a victim of sexual harassment might go through. It has been stated again and again that the victims were often young women (between the ages of 19-24), and Manik was often in a position of power professionally.

    We may know about the nitty gritty of consent as good as the back of our hands mentally but to act out these theoretical concepts while under fear, anxiety, guilt, regret and physical paralysis that comes with trauma is very difficult. Surely you can try to imagine that?

    Also, to question why these women put themselves in such a position in the first place is a dangerous line of argument. There is very little separating you from those who say that women ought to dress only in salwar kameez in order to prevent abuse and avoid violent male assertion to their bodies.

    As to why anyone would meet someone in a dangerous a place such as a private residence, well, I must say that I have met editors for first meetings at their residences many times, traveled with male colleagues and even enjoyed winding down with a drink in the evening. It’s a purely innocent thing to do, although it’s another matter as to what the companion-especially a man, decides to do with a single woman in his company, and if he behaves violently or breaches the trust the woman shares with him, it is not the woman’s fault.

    That these women went to the places of meeting of his suggestion for a prospective job in what may have been seen as an exciting startup, and thereafter, he violated the trust a prospective employer ought never to breach, is not the women’s fault. Surely, you can see that?

    You are a self-proclaimed strong woman who knows her mind and knows still better how to avoid a potential harasser, for which, I assure you, you will be the envy of many who have faced harassment, and the subsequent guilt and trauma firsthand, because I can assure you that none of them go out looking for any of that, nor do they internally stop feeling the guilt that they were somehow responsible for the harasser’s bahaviour.

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  7. Dear Anna, you’re not blaming the victim, but then you are. at least you’re being very vocal and judgy about how they should have behaved. Should they have behaved the way you would have liked them to? Yes of course! They should also have gone to juries and festival directors and all other such forums and shamed him. But that didnt happen.
    Why? Because when something like this happens to some people (who perhaps are by no means as brave as you to block someone on facebook) they are scared, and confused, and mostly at their wits end, thats why they would laugh off something like this, not because its funny, but because they dont know what to do. Things of this nature – not the facebook kind, but face to face – have happened to me in the past when i was much younger. once by a colleague and once by a friend (erstwhile of course!) And those who know me well will tell you im extremely vociferous and i could shut these guys up in a minute because its not even that they were in positions of power. But i didnt. You want to know why? the answer is, I dont know. To some people, when this happens, you just dont know what to do.
    Much later I did speak and so are these girls.
    and instead of wondering what they could have done, you should laud the fact they are talking now. Its cool and ballsy!

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  8. I don’t think there is anything cool or ballsy about making a web site to destroy someone’s reputation when you are comfortably hidden behind your computers. What would have been cool and ballsy would have been to do what Anna said. Simply tell the guy to fuck off without any nuances and block him. What could be cool and ballsy now is to send him to court instead of this mob justice you are conducting here. You do not oppose a crime to an offense but a crime to the law. You also have to understand that people can be against your current actions without approving Manik’s behavior. There are hundreds of feminists positions. Mine is not yours. I do not believe it helps women to view themselves as eternal victims of history and men, Some women simply do not think they are defenseless little lambs about the be eaten by the mean powerful wolf. I’d like to see you take a position of power, that would mean making a real move in the physical world. This blog is an illusion of power. In reality it will do nothing but make a photography cast talk among each other. Manik might get less invitations to festivals and so. Less photographers will want to work with him….that is all. He’ll just change scenes and start over.

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  9. I am not sure if public shaming is the best way to go about an issue as serious as this but good that this man finally stands exposed and the community at large knows what a pervert he is.

    I have heard several stories about his transgressions during my trips to India over the last 2-3 years and was very surprised that he is still in business though almost everybody in the photography circles there knew about it. What is stranger is that many photographers in India both men and women, have chosen to look the other way and continued to be part of his curatorial ventures, gave interviews to his publications and even were part of his projects such as the one during last elections. Hypocrisy much?

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  10. Someone should be talking about taking legal action. It doesn’t matter how big the guy is. Remember Tarun Tejpal?? Public shaming is not enough. One should realise that such guys are thick skinned, that’s the reason they could get away with it for so long. Just bring it to the notice of DCW?NCW.

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  11. It is really important that everyone brings up different points of views, and that we are all empathetic to each other’s perspectives – no one is necessarily wrong or right, we all have our own experiences. And sharing perspectives only enriches this conversation.

    Anna, Nataly
    I am glad strong women like you, who know how and when to say no and how to defend yourselves, have voiced your concerns.
    I wish I too had had some of your courage as a younger woman. I feel your anger and theoretically know what you are saying has truth.

    But, I feel like at this point.. perhaps a little empathy and kindness is what we as listeners should offer. We need to be compassionate towards women who don’t know how to say NO sometimes, when its a bit complicated, who know they’ve made mistakes by allowing people to get away with things and those who just want some closure in recounting their experiences.

    I am 25 now, and it has taken me over ten years and several dozen encounters with friends, relatives, co-workers, strangers and partners to understand where my boundaries of physical comfort and discomfort lie. Understanding sexual harassment is not easy. Understanding your body, and what it wants and does not want is also very difficult. And in India, it is never ever spoken about. Not amongst friends, families, nowhere – not even in the most privileged upbringings. We just learn from situations, as and when we encounter them – some seem like an offence only in hindsight. Its also a function of age – one’s own as well as the man’s. The older we are, the easier it is to recognise sexual offence.

    I think what this blog is doing, is creating a platform for women to share their experiences. To draw strength from one another’s stories.. I am certain, the next time, any of us are in any kind of situation resembling this, we will have the courage to call it out immediately. I have faith that my community of fellow artists, photographers and friends will stand up with me when I call someone out for harassing me. And perpetrators of these kinds of actions will also think twice, knowing the consequences that may fall upon them. Too bad for Manik that he’s the target, but its rather evident that that he really does deserve this.

    Royya,
    I am not sure everyone in the photo world (in India) knew about his actions, or at least the severity and frequency – I for one had no clue until recently – and severity of it only after reading all these posts. For a long time, these conversations were just gossip snippets and since no actual victim had spoken up, it was hard for others to do anything about it.

    Public shaming is not the best way, I agree.. but it has at least gotten everyone to sit up and take notice.

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  12. Some very empowered women commenting here who are attacking and victim-shaming the women who have had the courage to speak out and then going ahead and calling themselves feminists.

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  13. Strange, everyone forgot about freedom of expression allowing anyone to write a blog about an asshole they met somewhere… The other party could do the same. pooff!

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  14. Manik Katyal tried the whole “let’s meet for work” thing and then insisted I have drink beer with him at his residence in GK. I had emailed him an article I wrote for him but he insisted that we should meet to discuss it. This was in 2011 when I was an undergraduate student at Delhi University.

    During the course of our conversation it turned out that he knew my sister. In retrospect I realize things could have gone a whole different way had I been a stranger. Reading the accounts of the ladies here made me realize that. However, his general attitude left me very uncomfortable and quit soon after.

    While working for Emaho I put him in touch with a friend of mine in North Campus and he sent her extremely lewd messages. She’s from a very conservative family from a small town and she won’t come forward about it to make a statement. But please know that we are both following this case closely and hope to see him emerge from behind his dad’s money and face the consequences of his lechery.

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  15. Manik Katyal tried the whole “let’s meet for work” thing and then insisted I have drink beer with him at his residence in GK. I had written the first draft of an article for him and he said that we should meet to discuss it. This was in 2011 when I was an undergraduate student at Delhi Univeristy.

    During the course of our conversation it turned out that he knew my sister. In retrospect I realize things could have gone a whole different way had I been a stranger. Reading the accounts of these women made me realize that. However, his general attitude left me very uncomfortable and quit soon after.

    While working for Emaho I put him in touch with a friend of mine in North Campus and he sent her extremely lewd messages. She’s from a very conservative family from a small town and she won’t come forward about it to make a statement. But please know that we are both following this case closely and hope to see him emerge from behind his dad’s money and face the consequences of his lechery.

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